tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post3083147443769091521..comments2023-12-13T16:57:33.142-06:00Comments on Blogodidact: A moments musing: Spy vs. Spy, Zombie vs. Ghost, ISIS vs. Anonymous - all in all a new state of war?Van Harveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-83818758362818356392015-01-13T10:11:48.984-06:002015-01-13T10:11:48.984-06:00And yeah, I have to agree with Van there. Anonymou...And yeah, I have to agree with Van there. Anonymous pretty much seems to be a mob so far. Sometimes they do things that are decent, but just as often they are awful, and occasionally they are awful while claiming decency.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-24651371118853956092015-01-13T10:09:52.185-06:002015-01-13T10:09:52.185-06:00Robert said "...all to improve our world and ...Robert said "...all to improve our world and often fight liberal authoritarian fascists..."<br /><br />Ah-hah-hahahahahahhhhhh...(gasp...wheez...)...eh-heh-ha-hahhhhh....<br /><br />Sorry, you don't get far fighting authoritarian fascists by becoming fascists, you merely hasten the abyss.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-45716090994440827382015-01-13T10:08:40.975-06:002015-01-13T10:08:40.975-06:00Robert,
Fair enough; I claim perfect ignorance of ...Robert,<br />Fair enough; I claim perfect ignorance of how much time people spend in their activities as "Anonymous." <br /><br />For clarification, what I meant was that some people may consider it a "safer" and/ or more accessible method of taking action. Going out in public and protesting takes time, usually during normal business hours, and if your face or name ends up splashed across the internet it may have real, direct and personal consequences. Acting from home also carries those issues, but people may find the matter of time to be easier to manage, and the lure of anonymity (even though potentially false) may give some people the added courage they would otherwise lack.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-71728032771901450522015-01-13T10:03:33.803-06:002015-01-13T10:03:33.803-06:00Julie said "...And if they get a taste of tha...Julie said "...And if they get a taste of that sense of power, what's to stop them from taking action against the government, and anything they see as government malfeasance and ineffectiveness?..."<br /><br />Yep. That taste of power has already been ladled out by the media, blessed by academia, and given a stamp of approval by Obama, Holder, MO Gov. Nixon & N.Y. Mayor Deblasio via #Ferguson & the #Ican'tbreath protests/riots, along with the rejection of Justice in favor of Mob Satisfaction.<br /><br />Add to that the libertarians who support the modern (non-Madisonian/Jeffersonian) sense of Nullification where one state can outlaw the laws of the parent state, and the anarcho-capitalists... and we already have in place all the fixings for turning the mountain of Western Civilization and its secular summit of The Rule of Law, into a most meager molehill. <br /><br />People have had the bizarre impression that any and all of what we have exists in the printed laws and impressive seeming buildings of Govt. It doesn't, never has, never will. If its ideas don't exist and Live in the hearts and minds of We The People... they will not exist anywhere else either. <br /><br />All it has been running on for the last several decades, has been habit and the fear of being singled out for not conforming. That's nearly gone now. Remove the fear of retribution too , and you might as well email out a virtual Ring of Gyges (and Sauron) to whoever wants to log on with their grievance. <br /><br />Hobbits might do well to head for the hills. <br /><br />An interesting year it will likely be. Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-16509849716044295982015-01-13T09:53:33.213-06:002015-01-13T09:53:33.213-06:00" tea Partiers really aren't going to thr..." tea Partiers really aren't going to throw a Ferguson-style protest when we see the world sinking,"<br /><br />Which is why we're letting the world sink, have have nowhere near the balls of ferguson protesters, which I've been lamenting since the tea party lost relevance. <br /><br />Also, from the Anons I've seen, they do what they do as a full time job in the 70-80 hours a week range, working globally, often violating draconian laws where they could face centuries of jail time, all to improve our world and often fight liberal authoritarian fascists, so I don't get the lack of responsibility/nothing to lose argument. <br /><br />I mean, if you do nothing, and things continue on as they are, you think your job, mortgage, or children will mean anything at that point? I'd rather stop things before then if possible.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301192961742973503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-79360279526053010812015-01-13T07:16:12.508-06:002015-01-13T07:16:12.508-06:00Yeah, this is an interesting turn of events. Poten...Yeah, this is an interesting turn of events. Potentially a black swan? <br /><br />It occurs to me that one of the things that keeps most decent but increasingly frustrated people from acting in response to a lot of what's happening in the world is that a) we have lives with responsibilities, and so our time is limited, and b) we have something to lose. So tea Partiers really aren't going to throw a Ferguson-style protest when we see the world sinking, and most of us aren't really in a position to have much if any effect on politics or on terrorism.<br /><br />However, if it starts to seem as though Anonymous is serious and effective against terrorists, for instance, how many people might decide to join in the fray from their computer screens, especially if they think they can't be found? And if they get a taste of that sense of power, what's to stop them from taking action against the government, and anything they see as government malfeasance and ineffectiveness? And then of course, every player is going to have his own agenda...<br /><br />Maybe it's mostly just talk, pranks, and trolling. <br /><br />This could be a very interesting year.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.com