tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post6351539234144947319..comments2023-12-13T16:57:33.142-06:00Comments on Blogodidact: Iranian Navy? No Cause For Concern. Nyah.Van Harveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-84555424965390416422011-10-02T02:58:26.410-05:002011-10-02T02:58:26.410-05:00One hopes that when the fleet arrives, our Coast G...One hopes that when the fleet arrives, our Coast Guard doesn't surrender in the manner of the British in 07.<br /> <br />http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17972136/ns/msnbc_tv/t/british-sailors-conduct-was-disgrace/ <br /><br />Or bow obsequiously like our Dear Leader did to the House of Saud. That would be embarrassing.Mother Effingbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01264056812587985898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-51109816689675689842011-09-30T21:11:37.476-05:002011-09-30T21:11:37.476-05:00Anonymous said "To the five countries being b...Anonymous said "To the five countries being bombed, the US must seem particularly vile."<br /><br />I'm sure saddam had similar thoughts. So?<br /><br />"To which nation are you referring? Iran or the US?"<br /><br />[sound of spit splattering off the edge of a spitoon rings out] Not one friggin' hint of a shred of moral equivelancy. None. Nadda. Zip.<br /><br />Are we living up to our own ideals? No. Do we surpass any standard that can be met by any other nation? Definitely. Does that even matter? No.<br /><br />Any nation that is a terror-based nation (or semi-equivalent collection of huts) is a valid target of any free or semi-free nation, at any time. Period.<br /><br />They are a threat. That they aren't bombed day and night is a matter of logistics and lack of direct relevance, nothing more.<br /><br />The problem I have with <a href="http://blogodidact.blogspot.com/2011/03/just-cause-and-justification-for-war.html" rel="nofollow">our involvement in Libya</a>, is the craven way we've gone about it, and whether or not it stacks up as a worthwhile priority of ours at the moment (not!), but as far as bombing kadaffies suspected tents, or blasting awlawwee-wee and his posse of thugs off the highway, I've not one shred of an issue. Or with doing so in pakistan. Or doing so in afghanistan. Or doing so in iraq. Or doing so in yemen, etc.<br /><br />"...nor would I be caught up in any nationalistic fervor."<br /><br />Obama's President. Not seeing any liklihood of ginning up nationalistic fervor anytime soon.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-30154021041933162262011-09-30T19:26:35.830-05:002011-09-30T19:26:35.830-05:00Van said, “They are a tyranny, and a particularly ...Van said, “They are a tyranny, and a particularly vile one, and having denied their own citizens Rights, they forfeit the power to 'peacefully' patrol the seas, or even to venture out upon them.” <br /><br />To which nation are you referring? Iran or the US? Iran certainly has the edge when it comes to denying its citizens’ rights, but the US has made great progress in this area, and excels at limiting citizens of other countries’ their rights. To the five countries being bombed, the US must seem particularly vile. I also suggest that the US is near the brink of tyranny, and because of it’s inclination for military projection, we’re swiftly losing our freedom.<br /><br />While I wouldn’t shed a tear if the US took swift action against Iran if they agitate it, nor would I be caught up in any nationalistic fervor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-86027276788251093232011-09-30T10:55:28.551-05:002011-09-30T10:55:28.551-05:00Anonymous said "Given the amount of military ...Anonymous said "Given the amount of military presence we have in Iran's corner of the world, it shouldn't be a surprise that they might want to return the favor. "<br /><br />While acknowledging that some of our military presense in some areas may be unwise - or at least unwisely conducted (and being the anti-randpaul, I consider the failure to exert our full force in Just issues, to be the unwise part (see <a href="http://blogodidact.blogspot.com/2011/05/israel-has-right-not-only-to-exist-but.html" rel="nofollow"> this post</a> for redder meat), not our presence), the general idea of our presence in that 'corner of the world' is highly warranted, and warranted in particular because of 'states' like Iran.<br /><br />A nation that oppresses and murders its own people, as Iran does, is warrant enough to position our military in that region, if for no other reason, than to hem them in.<br /><br />What Thaddeus Kosciuszko, a Polish Lithuanian who served as a colonel in the American revolution, said 200+ years ago, applies even moreso today:<br /><br /><i>"Tyranny anywhere is a threat to freedom everywhere"</i><br /><br />They are a tyranny, and a particularly vile one, and having denied their own citizens Rights, they forfeit the power to 'peacefully' patrol the seas, or even to venture out upon them. Just as you don't deputize Al Capone to fight crime, you don't welcome a tyrant into peaceful waters. <br /><br />If they near American waters - turn them back, or sink them.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-77388920646129837872011-09-30T08:19:20.585-05:002011-09-30T08:19:20.585-05:00Missile? Who needs that- A properly located 50 fo...Missile? Who needs that- A properly located 50 foot boat with a nuke aboard,off the Atlantic coast could take out Manhattan.<br /><br />Since I am sure Obama does not mind the threat, perhaps we need a minuteman "Navy" to take out the threat in international waters.American manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01927027466144258685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-2053198830468714572011-09-30T02:03:23.577-05:002011-09-30T02:03:23.577-05:00Given the amount of military presence we have in I...Given the amount of military presence we have in Iran's corner of the world, it shouldn't be a surprise that they might want to return the favor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com