tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post778605717936895647..comments2023-12-13T16:57:33.142-06:00Comments on Blogodidact: Mr. President, blow the bugle, raise the flag, and show the damn picture.Van Harveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-31331184507169734252011-05-07T00:27:43.809-05:002011-05-07T00:27:43.809-05:00The reason why they did public hangings in the old...The reason why they did public hangings in the old days was because they did not have time for BS, and it was a clear deturent to crime. You would attend a public execution and observe how gruesome it is and think " wow i would not want to be them". and if you were a child, it made a very strong impression on you. children were used to seeing such things, and they were not damaged because of it. It seems harsh now to hang someone for stealing a horse " let the punishment fit the crime" of course! but UBL was a murderer, he deserved to be executed, and valiantly was by our wonderful armed forces. show the picture!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-91841085228073299872011-05-05T15:38:05.846-05:002011-05-05T15:38:05.846-05:00(cont)
Those who commit crimes today are highly u...(cont)<br /><br />Those who commit crimes today are highly unlikely to give any thought to having to put right the wrongs they've committed, and remorse isn’t enough, they rarely need to worry about their actions requiring them to provide restitution, and they should have to - imagine if they had to labor to repay their victims, even with their own lives - mightn't that be something they'd learn from? But as it is today, as a result of the system which replaced that sort of thinking, we send them far away, lock them into cells with others of equal or even more polluted minds, let them stew on their 'misfortune' and then release them amongst us.<br /><br />Criminals know that there will either be no consequences, or those consequences will have little or not relation to the crimes they committed and their own lives will have to bear have little or no effort or care or need to face up to what they did - instead they will face no need but to develop the necessary 'hardness' to survive for some time amongst other prisoners.<br /><br />Justice is not rendered, but injustice is propagated.<br /><br />And I'm beginning to think that that process needs to begin with each person in society being intimately familiar with the awful consequences of injustice <i>and</i> justice.<br /><br />"But I also think that the news should cover it when the coffins come home from our overseas wars."<br /><br />The manner and context would matter greatly. Any form or manner that made it possible to be trivialized, made a casual matter, I think I'm probably deeply opposed to. T.V. News, a picture and table graph in the newspaper. Nope.<br /><br />Could and should the public be enabled to enter into an atmosphere of gravity and respect before the returning coffins? Perhaps. Should that be the 'politically correct' expectation which everyone feels and socially fears breaching? Definitely. How would such a thing be accomplished? I'm afraid I've no idea.<br /><br />"Both to show respect and to show the sacrifices that the military makes for our freedoms." <br /><br />Yes.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-36153704020450365952011-05-05T15:37:56.546-05:002011-05-05T15:37:56.546-05:00Lance said "I am glad the days of public hang...Lance said "I am glad the days of public hangings in the town square are over"<br /><br />On the surface I agree, I mean I really can't imagine someone <i>wanting</i> to see an execution, wanting to in the way some people want to see 'survivor', and I especially can't see wanting to expose your kids to that.<br /><br />But I've been beginning to think that such things may fall under the burdensome and necessary costs of a maintaining a healthy society. That people should not seek to escape from the consequences and responsibilities of Justice, that they should recall that Justice, that <a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/preamble.html" rel="nofollow">in order to </a> <i>"...establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."</i>, that we must recognize that there is a price to be paid to reality by all of us, and that even simply seeking to evade that responsibility breeds corruption. It's not enough to theoretically recognize that bad things happen to evil doers, but maybe we need to viscerally recognize that doing what is right is itself all too often an awful task to bring about.<br /><br />Do we do any of us a favor, when we allow people to ignore that?<br /><br />And isn't our entire penal system based upon the idea of removing uncomfortable situations and people from our awareness? Introducing an easy separation between the criminal and their victims? Does such a separation enable or retard a true sense of remorse on the part of the criminal?<br /><br />How's that been working out? It began with Jeremy Bentham (right along with Individual Rights being thought of as 'nonsense on stilts') materialist ic utilitarian idea that people can be sparred internal discomfort and be 'fixed' by society (who is <i>really</i> responsible for their 'crimes') by means of changing peoples environment in order to alter their behavior. <br /><br />How has that worked out?<br />(annoying blogger size break)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32362551.post-24260042868651601352011-05-05T14:16:37.308-05:002011-05-05T14:16:37.308-05:00I am glad the days of public hangings in the town ...I am glad the days of public hangings in the town square are over. But I grew up daily reading the Time-Life Old West books. I still have the set of them somewhere and I remember looking at all the dead outlaw pictures. I turned out okay. People die and in some cases the corpse needs to be seen. But I also think that the news should cover it when the coffins come home from our overseas wars. They used to and we need to return to that. Both to show respect and to show the sacrifices that the military makes for our freedoms.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04973448750714819716noreply@blogger.com