Bringing a knife to a gunfight: A leftie takes a shot at defending Van Jones' 'Contract for America'

I'd made a couple restrained (for me) comments on Van Jones 'Contract for America' site, before I began my last five posts upon it (here, here, here, here and here). Finally, after a long wait, I got a reply from a supporter of the contract, and as luck would have it, he illustrated the theme of my posts: That this thing is just an assemblage of words meant to appeal to excited emotions, without any consideration for what those words actually mean, or for what they must then mean, when put in practice.

The commenter, one 'revjmike' (no site links for his name), passed this off as his opinion:

"So you are opposed to "redistribution of wealth," which means to you that the wealthy can have as much as they can steal, whip, beat, coerce, and in any other way get from the working person. So the problem isn't redistribution. The problem is the inequality of opportunity afforded in our nation's "free market" capitalism that steals from the poor to give to the rich. Yes. I, too, believe redistribution of wealth is a problem. It's just that you define it incorrectly. And, yes, I'm picking a fight, you idiot."

Amazing, isn't it? For the proregressive leftist, opposing redistribution of wealth 'means' supporting stealing, whipping, beating and otherwise intimidating working people. It's tempting to say 'case closed'... but I am a flogger at heart and couldn't let such low hanging fruit go unpicked.

I'll let this post concern itself with my reply - which in my defense is just a stream-of-conscious reply, and the followups by both of us (and I'll sweeten the pot with an oldie but goodie - a video of Milton Friedman responding on nearly the same topic to Phil Donahue from several decades ago):

revjmike said "It's just that you define it incorrectly. And, yes, I'm picking a fight, you idiot."

;-) No, picking a fight is something you do face to face, tossing insults behind the safety of anonymity and distance is something petulant cowards do on webpages. Hence the whole of your comment. Interesting that you should spell the word 'define' though, how about we have a look see at how well you've thought about what those words you’ve spelled actually mean, shall we?

""redistribution of wealth," which means to you that the wealthy can have... "

'Can have', which means that someone is to be in the position of allowing them to have. You perhaps? Unlikely. Someone you trust... someone you trust to violate the rights of people you don't like. Hmmm... you wish to trust someone who has little or no regard for anyone's rights, and you are going to trust them with power... power gained by them through winning over the favor of 'the people', and that 'favor' is based upon whatever the current darling of public opinion is.

Tell me revjmike, have you ever noticed, in all your vast and attentive experience, how the mood of public opinion seems to change? Where do you suppose the person you trusted with power over the wealthy... and unquestioned power over anonymous folk like you... just how far do you suppose you'll be able to trust them to stand up for your 'rights', when the winds shift, hmmm? Once you've done away with the idea that Rights apply to everyone, rich & poor, the nice & the mean, the thoughtful and the idiot alike, once you've exempted some, 'the rich', from the protection of Rights, you no longer have Rights, all you are left with are privileges which the powerful have deigned to allow you to have - for now.

Do you really think trusting the powerful with absolute power over you, is a wise idea?

But I suppose that's trusting you to think a thought or two down the line... not something you show much promise at doing, I’m afraid.

"...as much as they can steal, whip, beat, coerce..."

Unless folks who unthinkingly 'pick fights', such as yourself, manage to do away with Rights completely, the Law still rules, and as such it has rules against theft, assault and swindle, and the only way 'the wealthy' can be above the law is if the concept of rights is weakened so that power and influence can set aside the law for those with power.

Are you able to see how that might become more of a problem, the more foolish ideas such as you favor here, should become the rule, rather than the shameful subterfuge?

Probably not.

", and in any other way get from the working person."

'Get from the working person', get... lets see... if a person has an unquestioned right to their property - possessions, earnings, etc - how could anyone, poor or wealthy, 'get' something from them without committing theft and risking jail?

On the other hand, if you succeed in weakening the right of your working man, and everyone else, to their property - their possessions, earnings, etc - then what possible security can they expect for their property, or their rights, from what remains of 'the law'... a law which would then (and much so now) that will be administered by people with the power to dismiss the rights of the wealthy, and the inconsequential, alike.

Hmmm? As Pooh might say: "Think, think, think..."

"So the problem isn't redistribution. "

Correct. The problem is the diminishment of rights, and the theft made possible because of it.

"The problem is the inequality of opportunity afforded in our nation's "free market" capitalism that steals from the poor to give to the rich."

Well, unfortunately, due to folks like you, if describing our economic situation of the last seven or eight decades, I have to put quotes around 'free market' too, but only because folks like you have diminished the right we have to our rights. Through laws and regulations, the govt, and those favored by it (consult Hank Paulson & Timothy Geithner for a list of those they've favored with gobs of your earnings (assuming you work) and mine), have undermined the law's ability to secure our property for us, and even our right to make our own choices about what to do with what we are left with, and with our own lives (your Life is something you have property in as well... though thanks to folks like you, your right to your own life is no longer unquestioned) as well. Today we no longer have a free market, we have the mixture of state and market, the 'mixed economy', which is what Marx advocated as a way of doing away with the free market altogether - and individual rights along with it.
The first step he advocated towards that, btw, was to cease calling the Free Market by its proper name (the Free Market), and to begin referring to as as 'Capitalism', because it is a lot easier to demonize something that refers to 'money', than it is to denigrate a system that requires people being free to make their own choices over their lives and property.

And what was it that Marx advocated most of all? What did he say, in Chp. 2 of his 'Manifesto', was what his entire methodology could be boiled down to?

Marx: "In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property. "

(closing out)

"Yes. I, too, believe redistribution of wealth is a problem. It's just that you define it incorrectly."

No, it's just that you never bothered to define it at all.

"And, yes, I'm picking a fight..."

Next time you try, you might want to think a bit about what you'll have to fight with - bringing poorly 'thought' out cliché’s and name calling, to a debate which requires thinking through ideas... is like the proverbial 'bringing a knife to a gun fight' - but then I guess that that is the 'Chicago Way', isn't it.

I won't bother with the name calling, I think you've identified yourself clearly enough to those who care to think the matter through, and to others such as yourself boasting of opinions you've not thought through ... who cares?
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I expected some type of reply that would rebut what I'd said, something that clarified what revjmike had hastily quipped. No such luck. This was what revjmike wrote, as a follow up to his 'picking a fight':

What you say only makes sense because you want it to make sense.
I don't trust politicians any more than I trust most people; but not taxing wealthy people is a completely insane thing. They break the backs of the poor then complain that they don't think they work hard enough while drinking champagne at $300 plus per bottle and doing nothing of value much of the time except continue to be rich.
Show me where I am wrong because nothing you said refutes this.

I don't think I could have asked for a worse confirmation of my concerns that this contract, and its supporters, were using words without a care for their meaning or implications. I replied:

"What you say only makes sense because you want it to make sense."

I eagerly await your next insightful argument... something along the lines of "I'm rubber, you're glue..." no doubt.

"I don't trust politicians any more than I trust most people; "

Which illustrates what I said about your not paying attention to the meaning of what you say. You say you don't trust politicians more than anyone else, and yet you trust them to create, or further rig, a system of taxation which CAN give loopholes to those they favor - and if you propose either tax breaks or tax penalties for one group over another, our present tax code is what you'll get, which will be administered by guess who: Politicians.

"...but not taxing wealthy people is a completely insane thing."

Who said anything about not taxing the wealthy? There can be NO right for anyone to not support that which makes the defense of rights possible - the government - and taxation is the only practical method of funding the government. Outside of taxing for particular services (ports, highways, etc), taxes, to be fair, have to be evenly applied to all, rich and poor alike, and I've never said or implied anything differently.

Who is saying that some should be taxed less than others? That'd be you (redistribution of wealth). If you pay attention to the meaning of your words, what that means is that some people have more right, and some people have less right, to their property than others do, and worse, it means that some people even have a right to another person’s property - which amounts to saying that NO one has a Right to their property any longer, which effectively does away with Rights altogether; and there's only one group of people who can benefit from that: Politicians.

If you haven't been paying attention to the last hundred years, the only way to administer such a soak the rich plan is through the progressive income tax, which means putting politicians in charge of deciding who will have to pay, and how much, and it means decisions have to be made about what is income, and what isn't, and what that means are reams and reams of definitions, caveats and loopholes - a veritable glory hole of power for who? Politicians.

Just what is it you think politicians are going to do with that power? They're going to turn it into personal influence and wealth (aka: political power)... who are they going to get that from... the poor? or from those who can afford them and give them favors in return?

And you say you don't trust politicians more than anyone else. You have a funny way of showing it.

An income tax is bad enough, but if it were at least a single rate, you'd go a long way towards reducing political chicanery and favoritism. But a progressive tax, which is the only way to soak the rich and spread their wealth around, can only mean in practice that no one has a Right to their property, you reduce everyone to only having the privilege of keeping what politicians allow them to have, and in the end the rich are ALWAYS going to win out on who winds up with the most privileges.

Personally I think the only way to ensure that everyone pays an equal share, is by a sales tax... you want the rich to pay more taxes? With a flat sales tax, the more they buy, the more they'd pay. But that's another argument.
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I pretty much figured that that would be that, but revjmike came back with another blurb:

revjmike replied:

But a sales tax makes the poor pay a higher percentage of taxes than the wealthy.
And I agree about politicians using taxation to buy votes but also don't believe there is a better system. Equal taxation simply makes the poor and lower middle classes poorer.

This one is really fascinating.

"...don't believe there is a better system."

Wow. Based upon what? What comparisons have you made that you think that a tax system which is comprised of tens of thousands of pages of rules and regulations, a system which NO ONE is free from being in violation of, a system which consumes billions of dollars every year in attempting to either comply with it, or in trying to finesse it, that is the system which you don't think there is a better one than?

Just wow.

Even Russia has abandoned the progressive income tax for a flat tax, and have experienced great success with it. Have you looked at any of that before deciding to believe there isn't a better system out there?

"But a sales tax makes the poor pay a higher percentage of taxes than the wealthy."

And when the poor pay for a pound of butter or a gallon of milk, it represents a vastly higher percentage of their wealth than it does for the wealthy, what's your point? That when those with less money spend or invest in anything, it represents a larger percentage of their wealth than it does for those who have more wealth than they do?

Congratulations on the insight, but as startling as it may have been for you, I don't think any Nobel prizes will be winging their way in your direction any time soon.

Or do you mean that the poor don't pay income taxes at all now, and having to pay any taxes would be unfair? Such a statement also assumes that the poor pay little or nothing in taxes today, which seems to undermine your earlier assertion that it is the who rich pay no taxes at all, doesn't it? Well, if the poor aren't paying taxes now - they should be. If the rich aren't paying taxes now - they should be. How is it fair that anyone should be exempt from supporting their govt?

The only perspective from which it matters whether one group pays a higher percentage of their wealth for taxes, or anything else, than does those with more wealth, is one of spite and envy... which really shouldn't be displayed in public. And forget the percentages, the actual totals of money which are paid by the rich, now, today, make any that the 'lower classes' pay, to be miniscule in comparison. The actual totals that would be paid towards supporting the govt by the poor, and by the wealthy, if it was supported through a sales tax, would be of such enormous disparities, that even putting them into percentages would make such complaints stand out as being as silly as they actually are.

For instance, if you make $20,000 a year, and spend $18,000 of that, with... say (ballparking off a couple proposals that are out there)... 20% of that going towards Federal sales taxes, that'd be $3,600, and the $2,000 you managed to save would be just that - saved. Not taxed at all. Your savings would be able to accumulate year after year, earning interest, without the penalty of taxation either as it grows, or on withdrawing it or investing it elsewhere. Can you imagine what that would mean to 'the poor' over a lifetime?

On the other hand, if you were wealthy, and you spent... say... $2,000,000 a year on the sorts of things that keep you amused... lots of $300 bottles of wine and so forth; at 20% Federal sales tax on all you spend, that would mean $400,000 to the govt coffers.

Whether you're talking real numbers, or percentages, that's certainly a difference I could live with - and not that it's a legitimate concern, but if you're petty enough to want those who benefit from America to have to pay more for that 'priviledge' than others, it seems to me that that's the way to do it. No?

"Equal taxation simply makes the poor and lower middle classes poorer."

Do you make an effort to attach meaning to the words you say and the positions you hold? Do you bother trying to see even the first level of implications of the words and positions you advance?

So equal taxation simply makes the poor poorer, eh? What do you think happens to the poor when additional taxes and regulations are put upon businesses? Who do you think will be hit hardest when incandescent light bulbs are removed from the market and the poor have to buy the expensive new green energy monstrosities instead?

How devastated do you think the rich are by the 12% taxes that are imposed on each gallon of gasoline today, as opposed to the poor? Do you think those don't make the poor poorer?

But again, buying milk and butter makes the poor poorer also, but they are necessities, and eating is presumably worth the expense - why should anyone be exempt from the necessary expenses of life?

Is there some reason why the poor should have no responsibility towards supporting the govt which upholds and defends their rights? Who relies upon, depends upon and benefits from that fundamental function of govt more than the poor? The wealthy and powerful could get along just fine without rights, they've got the wherewithal to buy favors and force as needed - in fact that's a sizable motivation behind so many of the 'upper classes' supported the regulatory state in the first place, so that they can more easily prey upon the less powerful.

Ask your local small banker, who it is that they think benefited most from Paulson, Geithner, Bush & Obama's 'Too big to fail' policies, it sure as heck wasn't them! Too big to fail means that everyone else is too small to be allowed to survive.

The easily discernible truth - if you bother looking for it - is that few despise and fear the Free Market more than those who desire to remain wealthy and retain their positions without having to work for them. Take a closer look into who actually instigated many if not most of all of the regulations currently on the books, and the regulatory agencies burdening the land, starting with the first big one, the Interstate Commerce Commission. If you bother to look beyond the easy feelings, you'll find that they were mostly brought about by the entrenched and established rich, the ones who are eager to 'work with' the govt, like G.E. does today, who didn't want to have to compete with new businesses. It was regulatory policies such as those promoted by this 'contract' which enabled them to do it - and the people they hurt were, are, the poor, lower & middle classes who are the ones who have to pay so much more for their products and services (which folks like you call 'fair prices') than what they would have had to pay, if the rich and powerful had to compete on a truly level playing field.

Regulations don't hurt the rich and powerful - they hurt those who are trying to become rich and powerful, and those who are deprived of the benefits of that competition.

The fact is that policies like this 'Contract for America' favor, hurt the poor, not the rich. The rich will simply pack up their factories and ship them overseas (you might want to google up Gibson Guitar company, the Dept of Justice and Madagascar - you'll find that the DOJ just advised them to shut down their American factories and ship the mfg overseas - how's that for 'Justice'?), if the regulations and taxes get to be too much - the poor and lower classes don't have that option, they've got to suffer under the results of your unthinking - but oh so easily satisfying feeling - policies.

And lets not forget, the additional percentages which the poor, lower and middle classes have to pay to ease the positions of the rich and powerful saved from the rigors of competing by leftists regulation of the market, represent sizable percentages more of their wealth, than the differences do to the rich.

Where's your concern for that?

If you want an issue to be concerned about, the question you should be asking, is whether or not the measures you favor leave people free to live their own lives, or will they empower experts in the government to live their own lives for them?

This contract comes down solidly for the later, and there are a lot of us out here who are fed up with it. If you care so much about the poor... why aren't you fed up with it too?

Van Jones – Transforming the American Dream into the American Nightmare (Pt 5 of 5)

We don't have a deficit crisis, we have a surplus crisis - GIBSON UPDATE!
I think that'll become clear as we make our way through the last paragraph of the preamble to Van Jones 'Contract for the American Dream', because as I've made my way through this, looking at the shape of things to come which these words are forming, it is hard not to see it as a nightmare of fearsome proportions.

If you recognize that words have meaning, that they are used for something more than simply stirring up an emotional response, if you recognize that words serve to connect your thoughts to something real in the world, help you to better understand what actually is true, rather than to deny and evade what is true, for those of you who read to understand, this next paragraph has got to be equal parts comedy routine and horror show.

What desperately goes unsaid here with this 'Need jobs, not cuts' mantra, is that those responsible for increasing the size of government, responsible for digging deep into your wallet, and your children's wallet, to pay for its massive size, in doing that they restrict what you can and cannot say or do, what choices you can and cannot make, and they even dare to declare what choices you will make... these are the very people who are most responsible for driving jobs far away from America's shores.

"AMERICANS NEED JOBS, NOT CUTS Many of our best workers are sitting idle while the work of rebuilding America goes undone. Together, we must rebuild our country, reinvest in our people and jump-start the industries of the future. Millions of jobless Americans would love the opportunity to become working, tax-paying members of their communities again. We have a jobs crisis, not a deficit crisis."

Less Than Words Can Say The most amazing thing about the proregressive left, is that their real message is contained in the words which they do not say. If you've ever seen a spy thriller or mob movie, where a couple heavies, sure that they're being monitored, proceed to have a conversation which revolves, not around what they say, but what they both realize they are not saying. "Such a nice business you've got here, it'd be a shame if sumthing should happen to it" (Translation: I'm going to destroy you if you don't play ball) A similar mode of communication is what the proregressive left seems to be specializing in today, expressing deep concerns, while their actions shout their very opposite intents. "AMERICANS NEED JOBS, NOT CUTS" Is what they say, but is it really what they mean? For instance.the man whom President Obama appointed as the chair of The President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, Jeffrey Immelt, recently inked a deal for his corporation, G.E., to partner up with Communist Red China, in a deal which will require closing plants in America, and sending them, and their thousands of jobs, to China.

"The recent announcement that it will move the GE X-ray unit's headquarters from Waukesha, Wis., to Beijing should have surprised no one who has been following the company's expansion plans."

They say "Americans need jobs!", but what they do, directly, deliberately, is send thousands of jobs overseas. Coincidence? No, and it is hardly the only instance of 'looking out for American Jobs' that President Obama's Jobs and Competitiveness Czar has engaged in, no, no, he's also busy doing the same for the construction of jet avionics systems too,

"G.E.’s new joint venture in Shanghai will focus on avionics — the electronics for communications, navigation, cockpit displays and controls. G.E. will be contributing its leading-edge avionics technology — a high-performance core computer system that operates as the avionics brain of Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner."

The man who is essentially our Jobs Czar, is personally responsible for sending thousands of jobs to China to build aircraft systems, and in competition with American companies, to boot! No do you see what I mean?

Allow me to translate that big bold first sentence into gangsterese:

""AMERICANS NEED JOBS, NOT CUTS" (Translation: I'm a gonna taka your jobsz, and the factories that provide dem, shut 'em down, and send d'em to your enemy overseas! How you like-a dem apples, eh?)

While proclaiming the need for jobs, not cuts, and for an energy plan, the Obama administration, tracking very closely with the advice and policies of its former Green Czar, Van Jones, has passed EPA Regulations that are forcing the closure of several power plants, costing us thousands of mega-watts of energy and and hundreds of jobs as well,

"Utility giant American Electric Power said Thursday that it will shut down five coal-fired power plants and spend billions of dollars to comply with a series of pending Environmental Protection Agency regulations."

That is their message, and if you're not receiving it loud and clear, I don't know what to tell you... except more of the same. And there are gobs more of the same stories. Going right along with this next sentence,

"Many of our best workers are sitting idle while the work of rebuilding America goes undone. "

This one takes some gall to say. The United States Justice Department is attempting to shut down the world famous American Guitar company, Gibson, because... or at least on the pretext... that because wood for their guitar fret boards are purchased partially finished from Madagascar, and are finished and completed by American workers, hundreds of them, here in America, and for that 'crime', the government has raided their factory, twice, in swat gear, confiscating materials, without charges being filed, effectively closing down their factories and threatening hundreds of jobs.

In other words, as my younger son, Chad, 18, a musician, put it:

"During a time of high unemmployment rates, what's the smartest thing for our government to do? Raid a gibson guitar factory twice. I can see why though, they only employ Americans and their business has over 60% exports. Making Gibson guitar one of the top few quality American manufactured businesses."

But even that is not the worst of it - it turns out that our "American needs jobs!" oriented govt, has been using the justice dept to rough up Gibson Guitar, which is an active Republican donor... while C.F. Martin  Company, another well known guitar mfg, which uses the exact same methods, materials and processes, but is a large donor to the Democrat party, has - you guessed it - not so much as received a voice mail about their nefarious operations.

GIBSON UPDATE: Guess what the Dept. of Justice of our 'Jobs are Job#1!' President told the CEO of Gibson Guitar: Send your manufacturing jobs to Madagascar.

"It seems that the Department of Justice wasn’t satisfied with merely raiding the law abiding factories of Gibson Guitar with armed agents, shutting down their operation costing them millions, and leaving the American company in the dark as to how to proceed without going out of business.

Now, according to CEO Henry Juszkiewicz, agents of the United States government are bluntly informing them that they’d be better off shipping their manufacturing labor overseas.

CHRIS DANIEL: Mr. Juszkiewicz, did an agent of the US government suggest to you that your problems would go away if you used Madagascar labor instead of American labor?
HENRY JUSZKIEWICZ: They actually wrote that in a pleading.
CHRIS DANIEL: Excuse me?
HENRY JUSKIEWICZ: They actually wrote that it a pleading.
CHRIS DANIEL: That your problems would go away if you used Madagascar labor instead of our labor?
HENRY JUSKIEWICZ: Yes"
It's tough to follow while your ability to think is still operative, but turn it off with some multi-culti patois, and it's all crystal clear. Jobs are their #1 Priority... it's just that they are anti-American jobs.

Got a Les Paul? Hold on to it (and DON'T travel with it), it's gonna be worth it's weight in gold soon. Which is handy, since the dollar is unlikely to be worth any wait, anytime soon.

Please, don't fool yourself, this isn't an eggregious exception and a rogue abuse of power - this is how power works, this is how power operates, this is the ONLY way in which the powerful exert their power, unless the are clearly required to operate in only specific areas and in specific manners, as prescribed by law. That is the system we had for our first century. This is the system we have had for the last century.

And Van Jones 'Contract for America' is entirely about increasing that power of govt to do as it pleases, it is entirely about evading or doing away with the restraints of principled law, because they would make its goals impossible to even attempt.

This 'Contract' is not one which respects your rights, or one that is conducive to creating an atmosphere in which jobs are likely to be created, rather than shipped over seas, it will accelerate the decline and despotism we are only getting an inkling of today.

If that's not clear enough for you, let me again translate it into gangsterese, where expressed concern actually is meant as a vicious threat:

"Many of our best workers are sitting idle while the work of rebuilding America goes undone. " - (You like your factory? You like your jobs? You like the Republican party? Then you can kiss them all goodbye, you pay us, or you pay nobody! You got that bub?!)

You think that's too harsh? Really? Well you just hold on there, because there's more! On top of that, we've also got the American aircraft company Boeing, being attacked by the Obama administration, via NLRB, which has shut down production - and thousands of jobs - at its South Carolina plant, because it dared to build its new state of the art manufacturing plant in a non-union state - because it didn't feel it could build and operate it in its home state of Washington, because of regulations and union interference.

Yeah. Americans need jobs alright - why doesn't the proregressive left cut us some slack and let us build them? Here?!

Still not enough? Try this one on for size, The U.S. General Accounting Office is not estimating that our govt has identified waste and duplication to the tune of "... at least $100 billion in savings has been identified"

"Despite U.S. EPA and six other federal agencies spending more than $1.4 billion to provide clean drinking water in the U.S.-Mexico border region, the effort remains ineffective."

While that is happening, and while those who are pressing to give govt more power over your life KNOW that that is happening, simpering demogogic fools like Van Jones have the nerve to peddle this tripe:

"Millions of jobless Americans would love the opportunity to become working, tax-paying members of their communities again. We have a jobs crisis, not a deficit crisis."

The Unthinking Thoughts

This is the most horrifying, and depressing part of all:

"To produce this Contract for the American Dream, 131,203 Americans came together online and in their communities. We wrote and rated 25,904 ideas. Together, we identified the 10 most critical steps to get our economy back on track and restore the American Dream:"

This is all being done in the supposed pursuit of making your life easier, more prosperous, safer and in the name of progress. And perhaps that is the intent, at least of most people who hear the words and nod in support of them, and for those people, like my relatives, I don't doubt that that is their intent. I've little doubt that they have good intentions for those rights of yours which they are relieving you of - but that and $5 will buy you a bag of ice in hell... which won't last long enough to improve your situation their either.

The fact is that there is no thinking behind these thoughts, at least not in the way most people would assume that the purpose of thinking would be put towards. The thinking that went into this 'contract' went no further than thinking about what would catch interest, what would stir up emotions, what would attract the casually generous concerns of people too involved with other pursuits to consider them any further.

The problem is that people like Van Jones know that the casually well intentioned are easy prey for their support, that they will rarely if ever give their propagandistic appeals a second thought, and they know that if they can only stir up their support, they'll be able to get their ideas implemented before anyone becomes the wiser - before it's too late.

These well intentioned anti-private property, pro-expert empowered big govt fools, have been robbing you of the treasures of western civilization with their good intentions, and the high crime, unemployment and dysfunctional society which comes along with it all... is entirely the product of this proregressive leftist thinking - and whether it is being promoted by democrats or rino's, the result is always the same.

Worse, under the cover of your good intentions, these people such as 'legislators' like Maxine Waters, are on TV daily telling us in the Tea Party to go to hell  for disagreeing with them (see local St. Louis congressional candidate, Martin Baker calling her, and the Congressional Black Caucus out on their lunacy), while people like Fareed Zakaria tell us that our constituiton is old hat, silly outdated, a parliamentary system would be so much better, animal rights activists like Wayne Pacella, eagerly telling us that direct democracy and animal rights are the way to future progress... and I can only find myself repeating what President Calvin Coolidge said,

"About the Declaration there is a finality that is exceedingly restful. It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning can not be applied to this great charter. If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers."

What we find ourselves faced with today when we question the positions of the proregressive left, are pure thoughtlessness, nothing but assertions, demands and threats, and I, and others of like mind with me, are told that we must yield to the demands of the left because the might of their numbers makes them right... and in that siren song all I can hear is a swift regression to ancient barbarity.

Can you honestly say that you hear someting different than that? Please, tell me, assuming that you are thinking it through and two or more steps further, what possible freedom and liberty can you find in these groundless and contradictory claims and demands?

How are statements such as Van Jones 'Contract of America' not considered, at the very least, politicaly insane? What's that popular definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? The French Revolution? Marx-Lenin-Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? Hitler? Mussolini? Kenya? Zimbabwa?

What in God's name are you expecting to occur differently?! For what reason? It is insane.
Van Jones and his ilk wish to tell us that,

"We have a jobs crisis, not a deficit crisis."

No, they are wrong, we don't have a jobs crisis, we don't even have a deficit crisis, what we have is a massive surplus of government, meddling in areas it has no right whatsoever attempting to govern, and only crisis can result from it - as it has.

And yet, here we are. Are you going to allow it to continue without even giving it a thought?