Friday, January 31, 2014

We need to make Progress in understanding what Regress is - pt.1

We are a people badly in need of making Progress in understanding what Regress would be. And so to illustrate where these next few posts will be going, and why, lets take a look at a couple snippets from the President's State of the Union speech:
"But America does not stand still, and neither will I. (Applause.) So wherever and whenever I can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more American families, that's what I'm going to do. "
Many, myself included, are alarmed at the President's use of executive orders. Note: It's not so much that he's issuing executive orders - administering the laws is the Chief Executive's job, and executive orders are a legitimate means of executing the laws - or the quantity of them being issued, too few orders could be worse than too many. What's troubling is his stated purpose for issuing them, not for the purpose of carrying out the laws - but to alter, ignore or even to act without the benefit of their even being a law to act upon.

Many others are positively giddy over the promise of his doing so, sure that his orders will get things done and bring about progress.

Which is right? More importantly, how is a person to decide which is right?

And this:
"But the budget compromise should leave us freer to focus on creating new jobs, not creating new crises.And in the coming months -- (applause) -- in the coming months, let's see where else we can make progress together. Let's make this a year of action. That's what most Americans want, for all of us in this chamber to focus on their lives, their hopes, their aspirations. "
President Obama says that most Americans want the government to be taking action to create jobs, and he promises a "year of actions" to deliver on that promise, assuring us that with his doing so, "we can make progress together". Many agree, many disagree - but why? Is it just a disagreement over policies? Is whether or not jobs are created, the measure of whether or not Progress is being made? The economy is certainly a concern for us all, especially as he's taken his failed economic policies beyond 'a four year proposiiton' to six years and counting, but is an economic basis, basis enough for taking such sweeping actions as he is proposing?

Is "a year of action" by government something that can be called Progress? Is it just a matter of your point of view?

What does the President mean by Progress? Does he mean what you think he means? Just for the moment, consider what happens if what he means by progress, is not what you mean by progress (maybe keeping the NSA in mind will help), and if that's the case, is such a 'year of action' likely to result in progress being made?

Obviously the issue here is how is "Progress" to be judged, and by who? You? Me? Congress? The President? Wall Street?

Without some common standard to measure Progress by, the term becomes worse than meaningless, it becomes an empty verbal decoration that pleases all who see it, while what is actually meant by the word is known only to the person using it. And in the hands of those who hold political power over our lives, property and rights - that becomes a very dangerous decoration.

What should you do when words are being used as decorations to help obscure what is actually meant by them? Well at the very least, it seems to me, we shouldn't comply with such, at best, ambiguous, at worst deceptive, uses of our words. For instance, Liberal is a term I rarely use when referring to the Left, as, in my judgment, they no longer understand or practice what it actually means. But while not misusing a word might hold the line, it won't advance our position. And with that in mind, I sometimes try turning those misused words against those who would, intentionally or not, abuse them.

Opinion, mine or anyone else's, isn't enough
'ProRegressive' is an example of my attempting to turn a misused word around towards highlighting its neglected meaning. "Progressive" has been the preferred term of many for over a century, from Teddy Roosevelt & Woodrow Wilson to John McCain & Hilary Clinton, and given how, IMHO, their use of the word is a misuse of the term, I choose to not grant them its cover. Instead, whenever possible, I substitute my pet term, ProRegressive, for the persons and policies of the Left and Right who promote ideas and policies that I see as being in fundamental opposition to Liberty.

Why? Because when you abandon Progress, for Regress, you become Pro-Regressive, no matter how kind hearted and 'good' your intentions might be, so why on earth should I, or anyone else, refer to them or their policies, with a term whose meaning they fundamentally oppose?

But while my term is meant to tweak them, even to mock the positions of those it describes, I don't use it as an insult (such as leftists using 'teabagger' do), but as a means of combating what I see as an ideological misrepresentation of the aims of those who characterize themselves, or their policies, as 'Progressive'.

It doesn't always go over well when I do.

I was responding to a 'Facebook friend', Karl, who took it as an insult, and I replied with
"Oh it's not an insult, simply a refusal to go along with a gross ideological misrepresentation.

The first real progress in history came from the successful threads of Western Cultures development, culminating in the Liberal views of the early enlightenment, across philosophy, religion, arts, science, manners, economics and law (particularly in revolutionary America), and possessed the society and educational views to sustain it.

The modern left has consciously, from at least the time of Rousseau, been intent on denying everything from man's ability to know reality, identify what is true, and make those choices which a life worth living requires, in part, by repudiating Rights as 'nonsense on stilts', Free Will as illusion and espousing govts proper role as 'forcing men to be free'... efforts which have been progressively (the only sense in which that word is appropriate) dismantling the society which first made that state of liberty possible.

To call any ideas of the modern left, whether in philosophy, religion, arts, science, manners, economics,law or education as 'progressive' is thoroughly mistaken (at best), they are Not progress, but Regress.

Hence 'ProRegressive'."
Karl replied that he thought it was "...sarcastic, at best, and vacuous, at worst", as well as "...But I'm an adult and I can simply choose to ignore it."

Uh-huh. This from a fellow who blithely posts cartoons and captioned pictures depicting any and all on the Right as being illiterate and dim-witted bumpkins. Ok, fine. But if you notice, I didn't simply reply by asserting my rightness and his wrongness, instead I gave a quick thumbnail sketch supporting why it is that I think my term is a more appropriate description of his positions, than either 'Liberal' or 'Progressive' are. Why? Because it's not enough to just state your opinion, especially when it goes against the stream, we have a responsibility to provide some framework for understanding the point that's being made.

What Karl didn't do though, is even attempt to refute my explanation. He only asserted that I was wrong and then added an actual insult to it, and then, after a bit of condescension, he actually replied with his summary of someone else's history of neo-conservatism.

What is that? I don't mean his passive aggressive hostility - it's a political issue, I get that, no biggie - but why go through the pretense of an argument... if you aren't going to bother making one? What is that?

It's the result of this: When words are used as pretences, rather than for their meaning, then the sort of evasion and strawman rhetoric that Karl used, provides a typical example of the thinking which ProRegressive thought imposes upon the words and actions of those who practice it: They cannot avoid being evasive, convoluted, and deeply misleading, because of what they believe, or rather, because of what they don't believe.

If you wish to identify yourself as a Liberal (a term which has a specific meaning), while promoting ideas and policies which, in principle, forcibly restrict the liberty of the individual, then you have to resort to misusing and redefining words, and then you will have to back those assertions with necessarily convoluted explanations, and finally, you will have to resort to using power - whether verbally, with unsupported and fallacious assertions, or physically, with individual or government force - to pull it off.

Is that an overstatement? Or even an insult? No, it is simply a statement of what I see as being fact. Sometimes though, simply stating a fact, is not enough, and sometimes summaries won't carry the point far enough across either, and so a deeper explanation is necessary. And with this subject in particular, I think it is important to give not just an explanation, but a lengthy and verifiable one, for why I think that the point I've been making is true and important to be grasped.

And as a fuller explanation is warranted, and as it will serve as reference for future posts, it'll save me time later, to make the case now.
NOTE: Progress does not mean Perfection, neither does it mean something we should return to, but something we should strive for. Anyone thinking that going back to some idealized point in the past could in any way be progress, is a very confused person, and not just about the meaning of words.

Likewise, those thinking that they can make progress, by discarding the lessons learned in the past, is just as deranged as the person seeking progress in the past.

Additional Note: Seeking after original understanding does not mean or require discarding new knowledge for old. I highly revere Aristotle, but anyone who has read his Politics, particularly the portion pertaining to Education, and takes that as being Progress for us on this end of time, might not have paid enough attention to what it was they were reading. Progress requires consideration, re-examination and re-consideration, and often it requires discarding that which does not comport with what can be understood to be true, in the current context.
Holding something to be true, that is not, can only hold you back. There is no way to make progress, through Regress. So, first things first, we need to define our terms.

Liberalism - in its original understanding:

  • * 'liberalism, philosophy or movement that has as its aim the development of individual freedom' - or restated, a philosophy which believes that that society is best whose members are at liberty to live their own lives, respecting others right to do the same, and participating in the govt which keeps that possible.
Part and parcel with this position, was the understanding that:

  • the faculty of volition, 'Free Will', is central to the nature of man, without which morality would be meaningless, and Reason a charade.
  • men are capable of Reason and are responsible for their actions.
  • the best way to live responsibly, is to develop prudent habits and to not allow valuable long term goals to be jeopardized by impulsive actions of the moment.
  • the Arts (legitimate Art, as opposed to stylized political propaganda) have a very real importance and benefit in man's life, not only showing and inspiring us towards what is good, beautiful and true, but strengthening the appreciation and inclination towards virtuous thoughts and actions through contemplation of the arts.
  • a proper system of government will be representative of those living under it, will have clear, fixed principles and defined methods of administration and for administering justice, whose laws will limit the government's power to intervene in those moment to moment decisions which the lives of its citizens are lived through.
  • Economics is a study of people's use of scarce resources which have alternative uses, rather than a political tool for controlling how they should act.
  • Govt's sole interest in economics, aside from setting a static reference for weights & measures, is in how best to stay out of an economy's (being nothing but the decisions of its citizens) way.
  • And finally that behaving Anachronistically, applying our modern sensibilities to what was uncommon or unknown at the time, doesn't increase knowledge or wisdom, but diminishes it.
Pursuing progressively greater realizations of these ideals, constitutes real Progress. Progressively undermining, obstructing or reversing these goals, is not progress, and is regress. Those policies which their supporters refer to as "Progressive", and which I refer to as ProRegressive, are advancing policies which cannot not require the use of force to restrict or eliminate the principle of freedom of choice, under the guise of being a "liberal" proposition, and I will not comply with their Alinsky-ing of such a vital and noble concept.

But this too is only my summation of the direction of Progress, and it does not provide you with the necessary perspective for determining whether it actually is progress, or just my opinion of what I think would be best.

To be able to properly understand what Progress really is, we've got to understand what it really is not, and the best way to grasp that, is by examining its complete absence, and what the first steps away from it actually looked like. Grasp that, and not only will Regress become much clearer, but real Progress will stand out clearer and dearer as well. Accomplish that, and I think the Pro-Regressive wolves in progressive sheep's clothing will be much easier to spot. Maybe even for Karl.

The true understanding of Progress has to begin with understanding what its absence is, and we'll begin reviewing the history of that in the next post.

Do you know whether you're pursuing Progress or Regress?
* We need to make Progress in understanding what Regress is - pt.1
* Farewell to a friend - The Doubtful Roots of Progress - Progress or Regress pt.2
* Is History, history? - Progress or Regress pt.3
* Beyond the rants: Culture, Seinfeld and the Ferguson Riots - A Society of Culturettes - Progress or Regress pt.4a
* Savagery has a History in the past and the present - Progress or Regress pt.4b
* The Materialist's inversion: When power is not forced to serve Truth, truth is abandoned for Power - Progress or Regress pt.4c
* Goodby 2014: From Gruber to Ferguson, Evil is the new Good - The History of Progress begins with its absence, part 5 a,b, c & d


Anonymous said...

@ Van: Re: "ProRegressive"

Didn't see much point in refuting a hypothetical construct that you often use as derisive.

As a self description I am a Liberal/Progressive Pragmatist/Measured and Cooperative Federalist (and would be happy to expand on that label, if you wish).

But I would also appreciate if you would include the context of our discussions of my cartoon and article posts, i.e., sometimes just interesting, sometimes satirical, and sometimes provocative, but very rarely with any predisposed opinions offered, pro or con, UNLESS others decide to debate the merits of those posts in their (or my) subsequent comments.

Regards, Karl

Van Harvey said...

Karl said "But I would also appreciate if you would include the context of our discussions of my cartoon and article posts..."

Actually Karl, the conversation I referenced in this post, was not from my facebook link of the other day, which had the graphic I'd edited by crossing out the word "Liberalism" and replacing it with the more appropriate "ProRegressivism" (the original picture I took from a libertarians post condemning 'Liberalism' for actions which have no part in the concept 'Liberal', properly understood), which referenced my previous post here.

The conversation I'm referencing in this post actually came from your post of the pictured definition of "Liberalism", from January 7th.

"I am a Liberal/Progressive Pragmatist/Measured and Cooperative Federalist (and would be happy to expand on that label, if you wish)."

And yes, if you could define what you mean by that, I would very much like for you to expand on that.

Anonymous said...

@ Van: Re: "And yes, if you could define what you mean by that, I would very much like for you to expand on that."

OK ... since you asked ...

First of all, I am not a statist per se, i.e., I am much less concerned about the size of government than its efficacy. As a matter of fact, I could offer the argument that a robust, but transparent and accountable federal government is a necessary counterbalance to unrestrained global corporatism. Of course the problem with that argument is that governments and corporations tend to collude (since wealth and power are essentially the two sides of the same coin of the realm) rather than provide an effective counterbalance for the abuses characteristic of both.

I believe that a comprehensive solution involves informed civic engagement with an emphasis on restoring democratic governance, i.e., a participatory or bottom up rather than a hierarchical/authoritarian or top down approach to governance and the implementation of effective reforms in campaign financing and taxation. Openness, transparency, accountability, and oversight must be implemented as verbs rather than nouns.

Having said that, I stated before that I am a Liberal/ Progressive Pragmatist / Measured and Cooperative Federalist; so let me continue with some definitions of what those terms mean to me ...

stat·ism \ˈstā-ˌti-zəm\ noun: concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry. (

fed·er·al·ism \fdr--lzm, fdr-\ noun: A system of government in which power is divided between a central authority and constituent political units. Measured Federalism refers to a national government governed by a Constitution (the Supreme Law of the United States) with the anti-federalist addition of the Bill of Rights (reflecting Thomas Jefferson's compromise position). Cooperative Federalism refers a less restrictive, more incentive based relationship between federal, state and local jurisdictions. It empowers individuals, and in doing so, it furthers the liberty interests that underlie federalist principles.

lib·er·al·ism \ˈli-b(ə-)rə-ˌli-zəm\ c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically: such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class) (

pro·gres·siv·ism \pr -gr s -v z m\ noun: the political orientation of those who favor progress toward better conditions in government and society. Progressivism stands most truly at the opposite pole from economic elitism, and has enjoyed its greatest support and successes precisely when the injustice, exploitation, arrogance, and greed of economic elites become intolerable, to both liberals and conservatives alike. Pragmatism is the art of the possible and practicable. Progressive Pragmatism was born from the anarchist ashes of revolutions past, then tempered with democratic governance. (

Federalism vs. Anti-Federalism (as it relates to our founding fathers). The following chart offers a comparison:

... continued in the next post ...

Regards, Karl

Anonymous said...

@ Van: Re: ""And yes, if you could define what you mean by that, I would very much like for you to expand on that."

... continued from my last post ...

And finally, I regard myself as a meliorist, so let me explain what I mean by that, as well ...

me·lio·rism \ˈmēl-yə-ˌri-zəm\ noun: the belief that the world tends to improve and that humans can aid its betterment ( "Optima" is the Latin root for "best," and "melior" is the root for "better." Optimization is an old paradigm notion, which assumes that there is a "best" to achieve. Setting sights on a single "best" can result in a narrowing perspective. This contrasts with meliorization, which, on the other hand, seeks not one “best”, but continual improvement through a process of constant adjustment, review and reaction through a feedback loop. It is a non-hierarchical, non-linear, highly flexible and adaptable method of achieving improvement. Evolution is the classic example of meliorization; change and transformation produce improvement through a process of iterative adaptation.

On a recent online political quiz, The Political Compass, that measures Economic and Social attitudes, I scored the following, Economic Left/Right: -7.88 and a Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64. That result places me in the Libertarian/Left quadrant leaning toward voluntary regional collectivism rather than state imposed collectivism. Try it for yourself; you may be surprised at the result:

Regards, Karl

Van Harvey said...

Karl said "I am a Liberal/Progressive Pragmatist/Measured and Cooperative Federalist (and would be happy to expand on that label, if you wish)" I still wish you would. The definitions you supplied really don't do very much to communicate what you mean by putting them all together as you have here.

What would really be helpful, would be your explaining what restrictions, if any, you would place upon governments’ ability to exercise power over its people. Explain that, and you will have illuminated everything else. Without doing so... it's all still very much in the dark.

But working with what you have supplied, let’s have a look (and I'll also have to break it into a few separate comments. Dang blogger size limit)

Van Harvey said...

Karl said "I am not a statist per se, i.e., I am much less concerned about the size of government than its efficacy." Heh, defining govt by its size and effectiveness, rather than its purpose, I think does make you a statist per se - your orientation is towards the govt, rather than towards the governed.

"I could offer the argument that a robust, but transparent and accountable federal government is a necessary counterbalance to unrestrained global corporatism."

And I could, and will in the coming posts, present an argument that a govt, federal or otherwise, restricted by little more than the passions of those egging it on, will not only participate in the worst aspects of corporatism (the blending of corporations with govt), but will extend that essentially imperialist pursuit, globally, and inwardly upon its domestic base.

"wealth and power are essentially the two sides of the same coin of the realm" When one is given the power to offer both values and penalties to another, as govt makes its power available or felt through, particularly, regulatory law, coin will have great influence in the governing of the realm.

Van Harvey said...

Karl said "an emphasis on restoring democratic governance, i.e., a participatory or bottom up rather than a hierarchical/authoritarian or top down approach to governance..." You've used these terms often before, and though I've asked you to define what you mean, here again, you merely restate them. Perhaps you think they are self-explanatory - I don't think so. 'restoring democratic governance', seems to presume that we once were a democracy and need to be returned to one, but we never were, and were emphatically designed to not be, and never be, a democracy... so what could 'restoring democratic governance' mean, and how could it be complementary to our system of government?

And especially as you follow that up by pairing hierarchical with authoritarian, seemingly to tar hierarchy with connotations of authoritarianism, that concerns me. Our Constitution, for instance, has a very hierarchical view of government, which your comments, vague though they may be, seem decidedly in opposition to.

And how is 'participatory or bottom up' not fundamental to the design of our government today? One aspect of an hierarchy, is that it is bottom up, being broader at the bottom than at the top, together with your previously demonstrated fondness for regulatory agencies, the ultimate in the top-down imposition of power upon the people, I can't imagine, well, what you mean by these points.

"implementation of effective reforms in campaign financing and taxation" Unless you mean eliminating laws which restrict people from giving their support to those candidates or parties they prefer, or requiring public disclosure for campaign donations (also problematic, but better than what exists), then what you mean is using govt to decide how free speech, and the support of it, is to be allowed and disallowed, all of which is a top down imposition of power upon the people.

As for tax reform, if you mean eliminating it... I'd have to see that. While I'd welcome eliminating the Income Tax (slavery-lite) outright, I do not have the hatred of taxes in general that most people seem to. Govt (properly defined and limited) is a necessary good, IMHO, without which our Rights and Property could have little substance, and must be funded, and although I'm open to better ideas on how to fund the govt, I haven't seen too many that don't involve taxation.

What I do oppose in Taxation, is any form of 'progressive' taxation, particularly of income, where one person or group is taxed at a higher rate, because of their income, or wealth, rather than their for their use of govt services. For instance, if a property tax is made as $100 per acre, the person owning 1,000 acres will pay more taxes than the person owing one acre, even though they pay the same rate. That's fair. Taxing the person who owns 1,000 acres at 47% of their lands valuation, while the person owning 1 acre is taxed at 10% of its valuation, is wrong, and a fundamental statement against equal rights.

Van Harvey said...

BTW, Karl, I'm not seeing where you got your 'Federalism' definition from, it seems to be cobbled together from several sources, was there a particular source?